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especially cptsd

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but i guess fragmentation doesn't need to mean having alters

Leiko

but i guess fragmentation doesn't need to mean having alters

Yeah

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It might be a well guarded completely enclosed part of yourself

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That you just cant tap into

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As it might be the case with cptsd if i remember correctly from some of your past conversations

Leiko

especially cptsd

My mom has cptsd (i'm certain of it) but never sought out a diagnosis because she's scared And she describes her fragmenting as containers and boxes that make her sick to open up

Not to be disrespectful but its really curious how people are scared of putting a name to something they already know how it works.

My mom has cptsd (i'm certain of it) but never sought out a diagnosis because she's scared And she describes her fragmenting as containers and boxes that make her sick to open up

@Kei Wendt - jump it is very very scary to open it up, but sometimes you might just not know how to

They are scared of the name and not of the thing itself.

i had a few situations when

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i felt like i was trying to open a box but it was locked, but the key was inside the box..

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and really wanted to open it but couldn't

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Not to be disrespectful but its really curious how people are scared of putting a name to something they already know how it works.

She's scared that it will lead to having to open the boxes, basically

eventually when i did i understood ohh ok that's why

Kei Wendt

She's scared that it will lead to having to open the boxes, basically

Well, getting a diagnosis doesnt force you to seek treatment either

Kei Wendt

She's scared that it will lead to having to open the boxes, basically

I didnt directly mean your mother, i dont know if thats her situation, i just thought about that which i believe is a common thing.

I don't think she's fully come to terms with the fact that she's hurt She knows it happened, but she doesn't fully believe it

i don't think if diagnosis is necessary at all, in my view it's just good if you are getting treatment and not evne for you but for the doctor

I didnt understand that sorry

Leiko

i don't think if diagnosis is necessary at all, in my view it's just good if you are getting treatment and not evne for you but for the doctor

Yeah she's not getting treatment either It kind of frustrates me since she projected a lot of her trauma onto raising me and my brother growing up and i think like... "man if only she got treatment" but then again i understand that she had horrible things happen to her and maybe she's not ready I'm just glad she isn't like her brothers

i mean if you are seeking diagnosis it should be for treatment otherwise it's not useful to know you have cptsd

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but even ewhen you get diagnosis it's not for you but for the doctor

Yep

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So they know how to treat you

mhmm

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i've seen people in did community seeking diagnosis but not treatment

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i never understood that

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i mean i know it's for validation

I sorta get if they want like... an explanation and validation for what goes on with them But it seems to be lacking the fundamental purpose of a diagnosis which is to get effective treatment

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Yeah she's not getting treatment either It kind of frustrates me since she projected a lot of her trauma onto raising me and my brother growing up and i think like... "man if only she got treatment" but then again i understand that she had horrible things happen to her and maybe she's not ready I'm just glad she isn't like her brothers

@Kei Wendt - jump unfortunately some traumas are so severe they go down the generations

6:48 PM

i'm lucky to stop it in my family branch though! i've been doing therapy 3.5years now

Leiko

i mean if you are seeking diagnosis it should be for treatment otherwise it's not useful to know you have cptsd

Well yes, but you can get diagnosed, get information about what the treatment is and decide later.

Leiko

i'm lucky to stop it in my family branch though! i've been doing therapy 3.5years now

That's good!

well treatment for cptsd is to eventually open the boxes... so your mom is not wrong that it is very scary kei

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but the thing is before you go to that point you prepare to open those boxes

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and it never goes further than you want

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all initiative should go from you

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you build trust and feeling of safety with the therapist

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and learn techniques for coping

Makes sense

I told my mom about eishi She was okay with it She's a lot more open minded to things, and she believes in magic too so this kind of thing isn't weird to her She said she wouldn't tell my psychiatrist either since it doesn't seem like i'm in danger My dad and brother on the other hand, i'm not gonna tell them cuz my brother thinks it's cringe and would probably be concerned, and my dad thinks creating a tulpa is willingly giving youraelf a disorder

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But my mom even said that she probably would've made a tulpa as a teenager so. I feel like she understands which makes me glad

Glad it went well!

Kei Wendt

I told my mom about eishi She was okay with it She's a lot more open minded to things, and she believes in magic too so this kind of thing isn't weird to her She said she wouldn't tell my psychiatrist either since it doesn't seem like i'm in danger My dad and brother on the other hand, i'm not gonna tell them cuz my brother thinks it's cringe and would probably be concerned, and my dad thinks creating a tulpa is willingly giving youraelf a disorder

Wow, that must've been scary...

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Im glad too.

Yeah she basically figured i had a tulpa as soon as i told her about it though She's smart, she knew i was testing her opinion of them lmao

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It was a little scary but i'm glad

Kei Wendt

I told my mom about eishi She was okay with it She's a lot more open minded to things, and she believes in magic too so this kind of thing isn't weird to her She said she wouldn't tell my psychiatrist either since it doesn't seem like i'm in danger My dad and brother on the other hand, i'm not gonna tell them cuz my brother thinks it's cringe and would probably be concerned, and my dad thinks creating a tulpa is willingly giving youraelf a disorder

Ur lucky she’s okay with it my mum would probably make me see a therapist or smthing

Oh yeah My mom said she wouldn't tell my psychiatrist Which is good because he probably would've upped my antipsychotics lol

ohno

I told my friend about eishi and they just said "oh ok" then were like "i wonder if that's what my other friend has..." because apparently their friend has a voice in their head

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So Success ig?

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I was hoping maybe they could meet him but they didn't seem interested at all lol

A non negative answer is already a success... (edited)

Yeah

better than what my friend said

Yeahh

I’m not sure what people expect to get from telling friends about tulpas

I mean I thought maybe i could get eishi some more socialization

Kei Wendt

I mean I thought maybe i could get eishi some more socialization

No need to tell for that, just let eishi talk to them undercover mode. Its more fun hehe

True

you can let eishi socialise on plural communities, she can be openly herself and no explanations needed, for a bonus noone will judge het

True I am in three servers that are chill with eishi, two of which are tulpa servers, so.

Socialization is the main reason I'm here. It gets a bit lonely in my wonderland and I would like to meet my own kind.

That's fair

This is magic

@aphelion - jump i’m glad it worked for you!

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fr its amazing

It is Wednesday my dudes

Hello!

Heh

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Hey*

How are you?

I'm alright.

Im trying to learn more about tulpas

Oh? Cool!

I am tulpa-like..coming into consciousness

Interesting?

i was born 40 years ago..been unconscious until now

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a system is developing

That doesn't sound much like tulpamancy, ngl

I was thinking im kind of like a tulpa

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being unconscious and then brought to consciousness

I mean, did somebody make you? Tulpas are typically made with deliberate effort.

something happened that caused a split..i am a secondary part to the host but very integral and now becoming conscious on my own..we are trying to figure out how to keep going with that

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like how people train their tulpas

I mean, if the split wasn't intentional, I don't think this is tulpamancy. You can still benefit from tulpamancy techniques though. That's what we do, we aren't a tulpa system either, really, but we still take advice from other tulpamancers.

oh cool yeah that is exactly what i am looking for

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the aim is to become more independent so i can be more helpful

Oh, how so?

we want to learn how to cooperate because a lack of healthy integration has cause a massive internal breakdown

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i need to become more differentiated

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to have my own voice

Hmm, if you want to become more separate, why not explore your own individual interests? What kinds of music do you like? How do you like to dress? How do your views differ from the views of those in your system? Although, if I may ask, if the goal is to become better integrated, how would further separation be beneficial?

well right now its an unconscious integration..we want it to be fully conscious

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its tough to say..things are sort of expanding right now

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its like a whole new reel of stuff is being rolled out

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i love my host and he loves me

I don't think we're on the same page here. How do you define "Integration"?

becoming one